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Commer Karrier SAP201
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No: 21728   Contributor: J.Hemsley   Year: 2009   Manufacturer: Commer   Country: United Kingdom
Commer Karrier SAP201

SAP 201 Is waiting restoration formally at Rye and Wadhurst East Sussex .
Picture taken 16 October 2009.
Picture added on 23 January 2010 at 13:42
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Was this this parked by A1 next to a large gun

Added by Richard Murrell on 24 January 2010.
Yes , I own this now waiting collection .
Looking for a flat bed lorry for recover that can drive myself

Added by JIM HEMSLEY on 27 January 2010.
SAP201 has now been safely delivered back to East Sussex, and work should start on the restoration in the new year. After several years outside she looks in fair condition, apart from some rust on the front. Mechanically I'm not sure. I know SAP serverd with East Sussex and was at Wadhurst in 1971, and have found a log book that is dated from July 1989 to July 1993, when it seems she was based as the works appliance for Courtaulds Chemicals (Manchester?) If anyone has any further information or pictures, so I can piece together the history please get in touch.

Added by Michael G. on 17 December 2010.
SAP 201 transferred to West Sussex F.B.1/4/1974, ran as a spare. I rode on it a few times at Chichester, disposal 1976. I understood it was at Rye, prior to transfer, a poor replacement for a Dennis. Have the dates when I rode it.

Added by Martyn West on 03 February 2011.
Many thanks Martyn, that helps fill in more of the history. SAP201 was only at Wadhurst until 1971 at the latest. I wonder if anyone else recalls her in West Sussex, or has pictures at Chichester etc?

Added by Michael G. on 04 February 2011.
Sorry I do not have photo at Chichester, but here are the dates when I rode this machine
3/2/1976 1130 Court Barn, Birdham(East Wittering ground), Small Area of thatched roof.
3/2/1976 1213 Bishop Luffa School, Bishop Luffa Close, Chichester, ordered by R/T returning from previous incident, Stop sent by Bognor Regis from stand by at Chichester F.S.before arrival.
5/2/1976 0810 Hay Rd, Chichester, Rubbish, I Hose Reel, SAP 201 had replaced JCR 326P Dennis"D"Wrl, SAP 201 was its self replaced by 4554 PX Bedford J5/HCB Wrt due to becoming defective, Hope this is of interest.

Added by Martyn West on 05 February 2011.
Pete Matten - are you out there?? Do you have any info on SAP's time in West Sussex?

Thanks.

Added by Michael G. on 05 February 2011.
Michael, this appliance was already a spare with East Sussex when it was transfered in 1974 to West Sussex on county boundary changes, it was said to be a pig to drive.East Sussex at that time were pushing their unwanted rubbish onto West Sussex and for a short time it operated I beleave at one of the stations that transfered over into West Sussex, but unsure which one.
I don't think it was a WSFB(Post-1974)operational appliance on a station after boundary changes for very long though, I beleave it more or less went straight into the reserve fleet as a spare appliance.
The appliance still showed up on the Fleet Register from 1975 as a spare and operated in this roll(although it wasn't very popular with crews)until 1976, it was then I beleave disposed of.
Sorry, I cannot help with photo's of this one.

Added by Pete Matten on 07 February 2011.
Pete, thanks for the reply, this all helps me build up a picture of SAP's working life. It sounds like I could be in for a challenge when she's back on the road then!

Added by Michael G. on 08 February 2011.
As previously stated this applaince when with West Sussex was a spare, and was not allocated to any former East Sussex station, even for a short time, and went for disposal in 1976.

Added by Martyn West on 08 February 2011.
Breaks my heart seeing it like that....We used to polish it every weekend and the Brass pump used to gleam

Added by Clive Rollins on 21 July 2013.
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