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No: 18772 Contributor: Chris Dyer Year: 1987 Manufacturers: Bedford, ERF, Leyland Country: United Kingdom
Somerset Fire brigade - Minehead -1987
An open day was held by Somerset FB at Minehead Fire Station in the summer of 1987 and seen that day, left to right:- Minehead's WrL (Bedford/Saxon of 1981 (YYA 831 X); Taunton's ERF PHP of 1973 (OYB 999 L); and 1986 Leyland Fire Support Unit, also from Taunton, (C 738 HYC).
An open day was held by Somerset FB at Minehead Fire Station in the summer of 1987 and seen that day, left to right:- Minehead's WrL (Bedford/Saxon of 1981 (YYA 831 X); Taunton's ERF PHP of 1973 (OYB 999 L); and 1986 Leyland Fire Support Unit, also from Taunton, (C 738 HYC).
Taunton's ERF PHP - what does acronym "PHP" mean?
Over here is "Snorkel"....
Good photo.
Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B
Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 22 August 2009.
Over here is "Snorkel"....
Good photo.
Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B
Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 22 August 2009.
PHP = Pump Hydraulic Platform.
The WrT at Minehead at that time was an almost new Dodge/Saxon, Reg.No: D521 KYD, and the Bedford shown was later replaced with another Dodge with "E" reg.
Added by Chris Dyer on 22 August 2009.
The WrT at Minehead at that time was an almost new Dodge/Saxon, Reg.No: D521 KYD, and the Bedford shown was later replaced with another Dodge with "E" reg.
Added by Chris Dyer on 22 August 2009.
To P.RB,
The designation 'PHP' as far as I know, indicates Pump Hydraulic Platform. That's usually this type of machine which looks like a normal pump appliance, but with a 50ft Hydraulic boom as seen here. They were relatively prolific in British Brigades before 1970. Elsewhere, you could find them in places formerly under British influence such as Hong Kong (I believe Hong Kong still uses them). A Snorkel as you call it, is what we call a Hydraulic platform or 'HP' That's an appliance with low slung bodywork with a conventional 85ft or 100ft Hydraulic boom on which was introduced as a possible replacement for a conventional TL or Turntable Ladder. In the U.S it is refered to as an 'Aerial', or in some cases, the word 'stick' is used.
That's my answer anyway, I'm sure there is someone out there who will either confirm or refute my attempt.
Added by Chris Hall Teesside. UK. on 22 August 2009.
The designation 'PHP' as far as I know, indicates Pump Hydraulic Platform. That's usually this type of machine which looks like a normal pump appliance, but with a 50ft Hydraulic boom as seen here. They were relatively prolific in British Brigades before 1970. Elsewhere, you could find them in places formerly under British influence such as Hong Kong (I believe Hong Kong still uses them). A Snorkel as you call it, is what we call a Hydraulic platform or 'HP' That's an appliance with low slung bodywork with a conventional 85ft or 100ft Hydraulic boom on which was introduced as a possible replacement for a conventional TL or Turntable Ladder. In the U.S it is refered to as an 'Aerial', or in some cases, the word 'stick' is used.
That's my answer anyway, I'm sure there is someone out there who will either confirm or refute my attempt.
Added by Chris Hall Teesside. UK. on 22 August 2009.
Pat,look at picture 14672 of mine on site for full explanation on(Pump Hydraulic Platform)this particular appliance mensioned.Its actually still today in preservation.
Added by Pete Matten on 22 August 2009.
Added by Pete Matten on 22 August 2009.
Thanks Chris, Chris and Pete for helping me out, as above.
Now, while I've got you all here....On the Bedford Saxon Water tender Ladder at right - a pair of rubber-tyred wheels on an axle is stowed above the first set of roll-up doors, on Driver's (RHD) side. I have seen them stowed also atop other Pumps of similar vintage, on this 'Site.
Please enlighten me .... also, a good story about using them in action, would be a bonus.
Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B
My guess is that they are either used with the ladder, or maybe, to move the Portable Pump.
Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 23 August 2009.
Now, while I've got you all here....On the Bedford Saxon Water tender Ladder at right - a pair of rubber-tyred wheels on an axle is stowed above the first set of roll-up doors, on Driver's (RHD) side. I have seen them stowed also atop other Pumps of similar vintage, on this 'Site.
Please enlighten me .... also, a good story about using them in action, would be a bonus.
Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B
My guess is that they are either used with the ladder, or maybe, to move the Portable Pump.
Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 23 August 2009.
Pat
These are the wheels that are used with the Lightweight Portable Pump and they would attach on the frame of the pump. It was alright if you were pushing the pump along on hard standing but the wheels were almost useless on soft ground or grass. As you probably already know there was nothing lightweight about the portable pumps and they weren't always the easiest things to start from cold either before the days of electric start.
Added by Paul Pickford on 23 August 2009.
These are the wheels that are used with the Lightweight Portable Pump and they would attach on the frame of the pump. It was alright if you were pushing the pump along on hard standing but the wheels were almost useless on soft ground or grass. As you probably already know there was nothing lightweight about the portable pumps and they weren't always the easiest things to start from cold either before the days of electric start.
Added by Paul Pickford on 23 August 2009.
YYA831X is still in Somerset, privately owned, 36, 000 miles on the clock, the ladders have been removed and the blues changed for amber. Now used as our dry riser testeing unit.
Added by Taunton Fire Protection Services on 21 May 2012.
Added by Taunton Fire Protection Services on 21 May 2012.
Bedford
Added by George A'court on 21 August 2009.