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Cleveland Fire brigade Dennis M919 SVN
This is a recent picture taken in 2006, of Coulby Newham's Emergency Tender M919SVN. This was taken, at a Charity Jump at Middlesbrough's famous Transporter Bridge.
The machine has been refurbished with the new darker red livery introduced in 2003, which features extra dayglow reflective striping, and further Teutonic style white areas. The overall effect is (as I'm sure you'll agree) quite attractive. This livery is now applied to most of the fleet.
This is a recent picture taken in 2006, of Coulby Newham's Emergency Tender M919SVN. This was taken, at a Charity Jump at Middlesbrough's famous Transporter Bridge.
The machine has been refurbished with the new darker red livery introduced in 2003, which features extra dayglow reflective striping, and further Teutonic style white areas. The overall effect is (as I'm sure you'll agree) quite attractive. This livery is now applied to most of the fleet.
Thanks Chris ! Apart from needing a coat of overall red a lovely offering!
Added by John Stott on 13 February 2009.
Added by John Stott on 13 February 2009.
Yes this machine is very smart in it's new appearance. It certainly doesn't look it's fourteen years of age! The new livery is a vast improvement on the insipid vermillion.
I will have to investigate the hole, next time I see this machine. I never noticed it before!
Added by Chris Hall Teesside UK. on 13 February 2009.
I will have to investigate the hole, next time I see this machine. I never noticed it before!
Added by Chris Hall Teesside UK. on 13 February 2009.
Hi Chris, having thought about the hole in the bumper, perhaps its for a blue light. Just a thought. Paul.
Added by Paul Warnock on 13 February 2009.
Added by Paul Warnock on 13 February 2009.
Hi Chris and Paul, the round hole in the bumper is to facilitate the front winch control. There's a T-shaped handle inside which is pulled out to put the winch in gear. Do you know if there are any of the Dennis SS pumps still on the run in cleveland?, they're becoming few and far between nowadays.
Added by Philip Denne on 14 February 2009.
Added by Philip Denne on 14 February 2009.
Cleveland still have several of it's SS types on the run. Some of the later 'M' reg ones are either in the reserve or training fleets. whilst some of the 'H/L' reg ones are now trainers or awaiting disposal. There are now none below 'H' reg.
Cleveland's Dennis SS types first appeared in 1979/80, The complete batches were MEF8-10W, HEF623/4V, EPY191V, E724-7KAJ, C936/7ADC, B141/2RDC, B144-6LVN, A988-90FAJ, WPY480-2Y, H550-2NAJ, J688/9VEF, L679-81FPY, M226/7PHN, M812-4TVN. Anything after the 'M' reg ones were either Scania 94D's, or Sabres, and
anything before the the 'V' reg example were either Dennis 'R' or F types, or came from the constituant Brigades.Hope this is of interest.
Added by Chris Hall Teesside UK. on 14 February 2009.
Cleveland's Dennis SS types first appeared in 1979/80, The complete batches were MEF8-10W, HEF623/4V, EPY191V, E724-7KAJ, C936/7ADC, B141/2RDC, B144-6LVN, A988-90FAJ, WPY480-2Y, H550-2NAJ, J688/9VEF, L679-81FPY, M226/7PHN, M812-4TVN. Anything after the 'M' reg ones were either Scania 94D's, or Sabres, and
anything before the the 'V' reg example were either Dennis 'R' or F types, or came from the constituant Brigades.Hope this is of interest.
Added by Chris Hall Teesside UK. on 14 February 2009.
Thank you for the info Phil, that's cleared that up for me. Paul.
Added by Paul Warnock on 15 February 2009.
Added by Paul Warnock on 15 February 2009.
As I've said many times over, the SS's are the appliances I remember, fingers crossed some Cleveland examples will make it into preservation.
Added by Pete Gardner on 17 March 2009.
Added by Pete Gardner on 17 March 2009.
hi Pete, there are no Cleveland Dennis SS in preservation that I know of
Added by Ian Mc on 26 February 2010.
Added by Ian Mc on 26 February 2010.
We'll have to see about that, if they're all going to be retired this year...
Added by Pete Gardner on 26 February 2010.
Added by Pete Gardner on 26 February 2010.
I recently visited the FDNY training school on Randall's Island in New York.
FDNY uses their newest vehicles for training, so that recruits and newly minted drivers and/or specialists have trained on units which are pretty much identical to the most recent ones actually in service.
It seems fire services in the UK adopt a diametrically opposite approach, relegating obsolete rigs to the training role - which may be quite a bit different from what the trainees may actually be experiencing when they go to work.
I can't say which is right or wrong, but the difference in approach is notable....
Added by Rob Johnson on 14 November 2018.
FDNY uses their newest vehicles for training, so that recruits and newly minted drivers and/or specialists have trained on units which are pretty much identical to the most recent ones actually in service.
It seems fire services in the UK adopt a diametrically opposite approach, relegating obsolete rigs to the training role - which may be quite a bit different from what the trainees may actually be experiencing when they go to work.
I can't say which is right or wrong, but the difference in approach is notable....
Added by Rob Johnson on 14 November 2018.
Hi, this appliance is now in Nairobi, Africa with 3 other ex Cleveland machines
Added by Ian mcpherson on 15 November 2018.
Added by Ian mcpherson on 15 November 2018.
Rob, I believe all of the UK's F&RS training schools have at least one up-to-date pump on teaching duties. Whilst they might not be brand-new they are usually handed down from a three- or four-year deployment at a busy station, and will be identical to newer pumps - in the areas that matter anyway. Besides which, when new recruits take up their posts on-station, the vehicles they'll be riding are not necessarily brand-spanking new anyway, what with austerity!
Staffordshire's extensive Scania fleet has seen little change technically since the brigade began to purchase them 16 years ago. And the type-B water tender that the UK uses means that water tenders haven't changed much in decades when you look at them in detail, from brigade to brigade and from one chassis and bodybuilder to another. Moreton-in-Marsh's world renown Fire Service College sports an eclectic fleet of ageing vehicles on many different chassis and with bodywork from numerous suppliers, many of which no longer exist, and they seem to manage okay.
Added by Yelp Bullhorn on 20 November 2018.
Staffordshire's extensive Scania fleet has seen little change technically since the brigade began to purchase them 16 years ago. And the type-B water tender that the UK uses means that water tenders haven't changed much in decades when you look at them in detail, from brigade to brigade and from one chassis and bodybuilder to another. Moreton-in-Marsh's world renown Fire Service College sports an eclectic fleet of ageing vehicles on many different chassis and with bodywork from numerous suppliers, many of which no longer exist, and they seem to manage okay.
Added by Yelp Bullhorn on 20 November 2018.
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Added by Paul Warnock on 13 February 2009.