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Leyland Firemaster/Haydon PE YGG209
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No: 9552   Contributor: Peter Langsdale   Year: 2008   Manufacturer: Leyland   Country: United Kingdom
Leyland Firemaster/Haydon PE YGG209

Photographed on 21 July 2008. See also picture 6231.
The museum caption states:
This type of appliance, fitted with a 9.8 litre engine and a Zigmund 1000 gallon per minute pump, was the mainstay of the Glasgow Fire Service for many years. The 'Ajax' 40 ft wheeled escape was made in 1940 by John Morris & Sons. John Morris, the founder of the company, was invalided out of the Manchester Fire Service in 1864.
Donated by the Glasgow Fire Service 1975.
Picture added on 28 July 2008
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I hate the way the fire appliances are all stuffed in a small corner of the museum when everything else seems to have so much more room.

Added by Andy on 28 July 2008.
is this in the new museum or this still the kelvin hall part? on a side note, my late dad's bus is in the museum also - the leyland atlantean

Added by Stevie Murray on 28 July 2008.
Kelvin Hall - very cramped and poor lighting. It was also very crowded when I was there, probably due to the weather. I should have taken my tripod! It was impossible to photograph the Merryweather and other appliances, as you say, "stuffed in a small corner".

Added by Peter John Langsdale on 29 July 2008.
I went in last year and found the same problem. Took a while to photograph as the carp eaters kept getting in the way. Nice to see the old Galway appliance there too. Is the engine still attached? Anyone intrested in Glasgow Fire Service, go on youtube and put Glasgow Fire Service in and watch the Firemaster and AEC pumps in action.

Added by Andy Middleton on 25 November 2009.
These Glasgow Firemasters (and the two TLs supplied to Wolverhampton and Darlington) had four door cabs, but the others all had a two door cab - which seemed to me to be less than ideal.

Difficult to see in this photo, but the rear door opening was narrow and the step height was very high, so even the four door solution was not ideal.

These access issues were caused by the high frame, to accommodate the centrally mounted underfloor engine, in what was of course a shortened bus chassis. One result was that the pump was front mounted, which seemed to be a plus. The other consequence was that you could (and people did) build a PE, ET or TL/P on the Firemaster chassis, but not a water tender. The longer tank would have precluded engine access from above.

Only eleven were built. They were liked because of the 150 BHP engine and semi-automatic transmission, both of which were rather advanced features in 1960. But the design was unusual and soon eclipsed by Perkins V8 diesel engines and Allison transmissions offered by Dennis and other more traditional manufacturers.

Added by Rob Johnson on 19 March 2019.
Unsure why this vehicle is under Dennis. I believe the coach builder was Haydon and it's a Leyland chassis.

Ed: just an error by the previous moderator. I will change it.

Added by on 31 March 2023.
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