Taken at RAF Fairford Air Show July 2008. No-one from the Manston Museuem was around at the time so am hazarding a guess that this is an ex-domestic pump for the RAF.
All R.A.F.Establishments, and M.O.D.(Ministy of Defence)Establishments would have fire appliances to cover the eventuality of fire on their properties.So apart from the crash tenders which would attend crashed aircraft, appliance of this type are also manned to cover fire of a domestic nature at the base.
It was a dog of a machine, slow and cumbersome! Its only saving grace was that it was easy to get around domestic sites as opposed to a DP2 or later on a Mk9. Like the Mk8 I think it was made to a budget!
this vehicle belongs to a member of the Royal Air Force & defence Fire Service Association "CRASH" team, and is part of the RAF& DFSA preserved fire appliance collection based at RAF Barkstone Heath in Lincolnshire
Petros, HCB Angus fitted the first of these for the RAF in the early seventies, this has a higher roof line which looks fibreglass. The MOD always went for a budget machine and they suffered for it, as opposed to many civilian brigades speed didn't matter as most sites were fairly small. The Bedford / HCBs that I worked with in other brigades were usually built to a better standard and had far better performance.
Regarding Petes comment, Not all MOD sites had Domestic stlye Appliances, On RAF Airfields A vehicle from crashline would attend a DPI or DPII or even the Mk8, with local aurthority appliances backing up if required, small out of the way sites would have this type of truck and it only carried 100gall water.hated driving it as i had to stoop down below cab roof to see ahead.
Tim you are right, all ground equipment went matt green in the mid seventies. Airfield equipment had a narrow yellow stripe around the middle which could be painted out in time of war. It reverted to "proper" colours when the cold war ended.
Iworked with the Mini Angus at Henlow in 1975.(god was it that long ago).It had a 400ltr water tank and single stage fire pump.BA sets carried in the side locker and the pump exposed at the rear of the appliance.We had 70 mm hose flaked into the rear suction hose locker.The appliance was crewed by 2 fire fighters and 2 fire pickets from the guard room.Dave Crowe.26-1-09
We use to have one of these on the run when I served at RAF Troodos in the Cyprus mountains. From memory I think they were called the Firefly and were built by HCB Angus. I think they only had a water tank of 100 gallons, the theory was that a hydrant was never too far away. I have to agree with John Stott's comment, they were a difficult vehicle.
Steve, did you mountain men not have the Land rover firefly up there ( forward control ) think it was there in 74/75ish????
Added by Bob Ewing on 18 February 2010.
We used to have on of these at RAF WEST DRAYTON late 70s early 80s and it was red
Added by Paul Davies on 19 February 2010.
If memory serves me right, the Bedford TK was originally designed to carry 150 gallons of water but this proved to be too much of a load. so with typical RAF ingenuity the overflow was positioned lower down the tank resulting in a 100 g. capacity. With her 35ft HO ladder she would have been designated as a Pump (HO parlance). I was at Manston Crash and CTE for many years and we used a DPI or II normally for Domestics, though we sometimes had the old Bedford Domestic( 600 g) on line. I came across the TK when I was posted to RNAD Coulport when the RN ' borrowed' a couple whilst their 2 x new Bedford (HCB) Water Tender Ladders were being produced. Say what you like about the Min-Bedford she did the job and were later gratefully received by the Fire Crew at Faslane.
Added by Colin Reeves on 17 October 2010.
I drove the TK at RAF Medmenham between 72 and 75 with the base mqs being small, it was sufficient for the job
We had one at RAF Swanton Morley and it was indeed used for domestic fires, I knew as a Angus Industrial a it was a follow up to the more rounded Angus Domestic.
I enjoyed driving , it was a lot, better than the old, commer with the big bell in the Top
I was at Medmenham in '72, the SWO was warrant officer Montgomery and the OC was SQD Leader K.Davis. Wonder if you would know Bob Willis, cook in the sergeants mess or Ian Hunter. I worked in the officers mess.
When I worked in the Falklands at Mount Pleasant as the fire alarm engineer. The domestic fire station had one it was 01 8Y 59. It was not loved by the crews, may have had 4 wheel drive. Probably still there scrapped or sold. I was there 2002-05
Added by Pete Matten on 14 July 2008.