Fire Engines Photos

Never heard of this brigade, can ask were is this brigade near to city? 2nd question why is it white which spose to be red for fire engines?

Added by Fozaib Khan on 06 November 2007.

Grampian Fire and Rescue Service..... Aberdeen.......

Added by Marcel on 07 November 2007.

There's been alot questions regarding why fire engines are painted in different colours. Studies show that colors such as lime-yellow or white may be more visible to the public than traditional red therefore reducing vision-related accidents. However the vast majority of fire brigades/departments continue to use red fire engines -a colour instantly recognized by everyone as that of a fire engine.


Added by Allan Selleck on 07 November 2007.

Thanks for the reply marcel.

Added by Fozaib Khan on 07 November 2007.

I believe this replaced a newer appliance similar to the Strathclyde ARP's but it didn't work out well so it's now up for sale at Brigade HQ.

Added by Andy on 07 November 2007.

Thanks for the info on my 2nd question allan.

Added by Fozaib Khan on 07 November 2007.

Answer to the question of colour is cost. White is the base colour of many manufacturers, other colours including red come at an additional cost. Multiply the cost of several hundred pounds over the fleet and over a number of years and you get a significant cash saving. Looks good though. I served in GFB in the early 90's when vehicles were dayglow orange and the paint job was ridiculously expensive.

Added by on 14 February 2008.

The comment about the colorprice is not true! The price for a red cab is not higher!

Anders F.Sweden.

Added by Anders Fallström on 12 September 2015.

Grampians old colour was not a basic Red, it was Dayglo Orange as stated! This WAS more expensive, I got this info from an Assistant Divisional Officer.

Added by Westie7 on 15 September 2015.

The original discussion was comparing the cost of white against red, not white against dayglo. There is no argument over the latter, dayglo is clearly more expensive than white. However, when comparing white with red, Anders is correct; white is more expensive than red. Why? ... because the (Scania) fire appliance chassis cab package comes off the factory production line in standard red. If a customer wants white, that's an add-on cost for a non-standard production line change. It may be different today, although I doubt it, but a few years ago that was certainly the case. Perhaps the former Grampian FRS were able to negotiate a 'red for white' deal based on the likely production throughput ordered in white? If not, many have fallen for the spin that white was cheaper than red.

Added by Keith Richardson on 16 September 2015.

I am pretty sure that the fact Grampian Fire Service went with white was on the grounds of visibility. White is a straight forward paint application to apply when must remember this all started way back in 1966 when the City of Coventry introduced a completely new generation of fire appliances in what has now become known as Coventry Fire Brigade Yellow. This colour was not just applied considerable research went into this and I am still strongly of the belief that it still remains the best visible colour for appliances. The former West Riding of Yorkshire fire service also had the white livery as standard its not about the cost, its the brigades preference. The only colour that is very expensive to apply is the vedientfeld (dayglow) livery this takes several applications of preparation and is only guaranteed to last for about two years possibly less than that. I will conclude that the new Scottish Fire & Rescue Service is adopting an overall livery of red on all new appliances this includes the former Grampian F&R&S.

Added by BOB CARVER on 16 September 2015.

Up here in Tayside we had a white appliance before Grampian. It was an 1958 Dennis F24 pump converted into a Foam Salvage Tender repainted white with a fan on the rear and 9-10metre ladder on the offside. It was based at station 11 Kingsway East when it opened in 1972 until replaced in 1976. My father was at the Kingsway at the time it was replaced and has driven it.

Ron Henderson has a photo of this appliance at the Kingsway And kindly sent it to me with 2 or 3 others as it was hard to get a decent photo of the FST.

Added by Grant.Melville on 16 September 2015.

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