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Am i write Tom in saying that at the time of writing this comment, Millwall are the only station in the LFB to have 2 57 reg appliances??

Added by Peter Bromley on 29 March 2008.

Millwall certainty do have two 07 reg.appliances-one is a dual purpose ladder and the other is a fire rescue unit, both mercedes ategos.

Added by Paul M. Hillstead on 13 March 2010.

What's the definition of a dual purpose ladder please? Is this a WTL?

Added by David L on 14 March 2010.

@David L

The DPL can be used either as a Pump or Pump Ladder (WRT / WTL)

Added by Michael on 25 April 2010.

What is equipment and operational difference between a WRT and a WTL? To a American they both look the like engines.



Added by Les Davis on 19 April 2011.

The original TVAC idea was to have one body that could fulfill both roles whenever there was a demand. The Wrt Ladder equipment was in boxes that just dropped into the lockers. This helps with replacement appliances in case of breakdowns etc. The WrT has a 13.5m ladder instead of a 10.5m. When I was with Humberside there were specific pieces of equipment that a 'Ladder' carried but this is very much a brigade thing as London's needs may be very much different to say Dorset's. We were in the process of making both appliances as standard as possible but at one time only a WrL carried ground monitor, in some cases hydraulic rescue equipment, sometimes it is gas tight suits etc

Added by Glenn Ramsden on 19 April 2011.

In some areas of the UK a WrL will have more emphasis on rescue equipment than a WrT and a WrT will have more emphasis on firefighting. Both carry firefighting and rescue equipment. A WrL will carry a 13.5 metre ladder and sometimes a 9/10 metre ladder and a WrT will sometimes carry only a 9/10 metre ladder.
So in North American terms a WrL will be the equivalent of a Rescue Pumper and a WrT a normal Pumper.
Hope this helps.

Added by David Jones on 19 April 2011.

Interesting, in the U.S.a engine company would only carry a 35ft(10.5M)and smaller and a ladder truck company carries the 45ft(13.5M)and smaller ladders.
13.5M ladders are a killer to use.

Added by Les Davis on 20 April 2011.

Les - one reason London pumpers so often carry the 45 foot "gutbuster" ground ladder is that this great city with a population of over 7.3 million souls only operates 13 front line aerial trucks! Berlin with 3.5 million has 34 and Paris with around 7 million has over 60, so neither city has to rely on super sized ground ladders.

The 45 foot ladder replaced wooden 50 foot extension ladders on five foot wheels, which were invented in the 1880s and later carried on pumper trucks ("pump escapes"). These were much easier and quicker to deploy, and even came in lengths up to 70 feet.

Added by Rob Johnson on 07 November 2016.

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