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VDJ319 Land Rover ex St Helens hose layer
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No: 41785   Contributor: Petros   Year: 1979   Manufacturer: Land Rover   Country: United Kingdom
VDJ319 Land Rover ex St Helens hose layer

passed to Merseyside in 1974 and here appears to be part of Speke (John Lennon) airport fire service which was municipal at this point. It was white with red stripe whilst at St Helens as a hose layer. Picture on Flickr.

Late Alastair Collins collection - used with permission.

Picture added on 03 May 2020 at 14:30
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I think this is the first Land Rover Hose Layer that I have ever seen. I wonder what the back looked like? Really interesting, thanks for showing it Petros.

Ed: no back view I am afraid

Added by Bristol Bob on 04 May 2020.
Bob: small hose layers were indeed not a common sight in the UK, although of course Bath had a Bedford Hawson van which was used for this purpose for some years.




In France, where brush and forest fires are very predominant, small 4X4 hose layers are however very common, although these too are quite a lot bigger than this Land Rover. They are often also equipped with a trailer pump, so the crew can operate an intermediate relay pump if necessary.

I think there may be one or two photos of this kind of rather interesting type of rig on this site.

As for Land Rovers, they are still used by many SDIS and the BMPM, but usually as command vehicles or personnel transporters rather than brush pumps, as French brush pumps have >1,000 liter tanks, but a few are used as GRIMP high angle rescue trucks...

Added by Rob Johnson on 04 May 2020.
Hi Rob, sorry to correct you, Bath had a Commer hose
layer, your picture shows an ex Gloucestershire Fire
Brigade vehicle I think they were used as hose reel tenders.

Added by Bristol Bob on 05 May 2020.
Sorry I gave the wrong thumb. I think you meant this one - Commer Walk Thru/Hawson AFB628B I think



Added by Petros on 05 May 2020.
That's the one Petros.

Added by Bristol Bob on 05 May 2020.
I only ever saw this once, from the rear, so for some reason I thought it was a Bedford.

Brain cells were obviously weakening, even back then!

Still, it seems smallish hose tenders like this were indeed few and far between, much less Land Rovers in this role...

Added by Rob Johnson on 05 May 2020.
Photo 28848 on this site shows a French 4X4 hose layer, although this particular example was converted from a former brush pumper, while most others seem to be originally fabricated as hose layers.

BTW, the French Forestry Fire Service does still operate a lot of Land Rovers as small brush units, but these are being replaced these days by Mazda, Nissan and Toyota pickup trucks. Unlike pubic fire services, their vehicles are painted yellow, and some examples can be seen on the France section on this site.

Added by Rob Johnson on 06 May 2020.
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