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Well as London insist all HGV's have an extra window in the passengers door will these have one or are they exempt? strange looking crew cab on it....

Added by John Johnstone on 05 May 2016.

LFB website says - "A different shaped 'crew cab' which will provide more comfort and safety for firefighters. These days, crews also use appliances to do home fire safety visits, attend community safety events and travel to specialist training exercises meaning they could spend a couple of hours sat in the cab." It makes for an ugly body/cab line.




Added by Peter Williams on 06 May 2016.

Cheers for that Peter wonder if it is true or just cheaper than a full Merc crew cab if they do one?

Added by John Johnstone on 06 May 2016.

It looks like a standard truck cab with a box on the back. An updated version of the Ford Locost and just as attractive.

Added by Neal Glover on 06 May 2016.

This "new" combination of a separate integrated crew cab combined with a standard lorry cab started with eleven Ford D series which I sold to Gloucestershire Fire Service in 1966. They had HCB Angus bodies and there are several pictures of them on this site. Cheap, cheerful and practical, but really industrial-looking!

Despite anything LFB says, the main reason for this configuration then was lower cost, and it probably still is! But this type of crew cab is taller and wider than most integrated crew cabs, although they do still look really ugly.

By the way, speaking of new ideas (which this cab isn't), has LFB discovered CAFS yet? Brigades like Berlin and Paris have CAFS on all their new pumpers, as I believe do quite a few other UK brigades now...

Added by Rob Johnson on 10 May 2016.

I read BA sets will also be stored in the lockers rather than the seat backs

Added by Andy on 12 May 2016.

More on this new 'Prototype Pump' for London here:

www.london-fire.gov.uk/news/LatestNewsReleases_New-Brigade-vehicle-prototype-gets-royal-approval.asp#.VzTHeGxf3IU

Added by Pete S on 12 May 2016.

the comment about increased comfort is c--p, the box is way cheaper than the factory extended cab, why oh why do the powers to be get it so very wrong so often....

Added by Alan Ramsay on 13 May 2016.

Has anyone on here got a photo of the completed vehicle either at E-One or at a launch ceremony?

Added by Grant Melville on 14 May 2016.

North Yorks bought 4 I think it was Volvos on 57 plates with a crew cab built by E-one and they was hated by the crews and soon became spares, they looked awful too but this looks stupid, yes ok if it does the job and does it well fair enough but it is grim to say the least. Also wonder if they will become "Fire & Rescue" esp now they have gone all modern with front side repeaters and the boring standard livery....

Added by John Johnstone on 14 May 2016.

Grant have a look on Twitter on E One's feed. @eoneukltd. You don't need an account. There is a full picture on 29 April entry.

Added by Peter Williams on 23 May 2016.

I agree Andy that storing the BA sets in side lockers is indeed a retrograde step! Almost any inside job requires BA, and many fire departments here in the US make it a SOP for the officer and at least two other crew members of the first due unit to be fully rigged in BA before they get to any reported structure fire. Talk about comfort coming before safety! Its really quite backwards...

Added by Rob Johnson on 24 May 2016.

Very ugly fire engine, budget model no doubt, a right dogs dinner of design, comfort factor, really? Even the badge has changed colour, no blue depicting the River Thames! Yuk!

Added by Mike Lever on 02 February 2017.

Mike: But it does have blue front steps! I wonder what that's about?

Added by Rob Johnson on 03 February 2017.

blue steps are just tape , used in build to stop staff scratching paint/masking , e-one are only the builders , its not an in house design and as for the ugly s yorks ones they were built to cost , the brigade wouldnt pay for the factory or e-ones safety cabs, I worked for e-one and fulton/wylie

Added by J Robertson on 07 February 2017.

Hi Rob, if you look at photos of the complete machine you can see that the front steps are the same colour as the front bumper. I think this is just protective wrapping when fitted.

Added by Grant Melville on 08 February 2017.

Seems the ugly Magirus German built cab is giving issues such as sticking windows and door jamming, oh no German made stuff not being reliable, never, if my C class has anything to go by that's the second and last German car I will buy, unreliable crap, anyway to move to the fire appliance, there are 72 being built this year and a similar number next and as these are still the very first I expect thin their defence to be minor glitches but I am sure e-one will be on it along with the manufacturers and make sure its fixed quickly , the cab is super to be in with easy wide steps and comfortable seats with huge windows for plenty of light , as for the B/A not being in the cab , british firefighters are not allowed to don en route due to h&s regs so it matters not a jot where you put them and a slide out feature at a decent height will be better for the firefighters back in the long run , first appliance firefighters cannot go in till more firefighters are available for rescue crews anyway , i think looks should be secondary to crew safety and comfort and they are not that bad and way better than the old ford stuck on cab or the cheapskate cab that Yorkshire and indeed Hampshire bought, as for cafs it's not the be all and end all that everyone shouted about and London has decided to stick with high pressure reels with wider tubing and the firefighters love it along with the electronic pump setting feature so give them time and I am sure it will work out and as for German reliability that's for another day ....

Added by T Mullen on 23 July 2017.

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