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KF&RS Ashford 06/04/2013
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No: 35635   Contributor: Chris Stone   Year: 2013   Manufacturers: Dennis, Iveco, MAN, Scania   Country: United Kingdom
KF&RS Ashford 06/04/2013

The line up of 4 of the 5 Kent Fire & Rescue Service Ashford Fire Station's Appliances on 06/04/2013, L-R (looking at the pic) are Scania P280/JDC Rescue Pump Platform EU62AGO fleet No 6003, Iveco-Magirus 120-25/GB Fire/Magirus DLK23-12cc APL P865MKJ fleet No 189, Dennis Sabre RPL GK03OWV fleet No 202 and MAN/Marshall S.V. Incident Response Unit DG53FWF fleet No IRU 047. The Rescue Pump Platform is Not a CARP, but a scaffolding type platform which when erected is at the same hight as a HGV cab, and is mostly used for rescuing/access the cab area of HGV's that are involved in MVA's on the nearby M20.
Picture added on 11 August 2013 at 07:10
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Hi Chris,
Have you any other photos of the Rescue Pump Platform? Very interested to see what it looks like from another angle.

Added by Dermot Duffy on 11 August 2013.
Hi Dermot, sorry the only other pic of the "platform" is picture 35641. These seem to be becoming a standard Kent thing as I know Maidstone have one as well, I've yet to see it in use.

Added by Chris Stone on 12 August 2013.
Hi Chris, Thanks for that! I know what it is now. There is one on the run with County Cavan FRS in Ireland. Very similar in design to Kent's.

Added by Dermot Duffy on 13 August 2013.
Hi Guys, I've never heard of a rescue pump platform, sounds like a brilliant concept, is there anywhere on the net where we may be able to view the platform erected, thanks.

Added by Pav on 14 August 2013.
Right Chaps, the Kent Fire & Rescue Service take on this is as follow's :- Rescue Pump Platform (RPP) A new type (2008) of appliance carries everything a Rescue Pump Ladder carries, ( LPP, selection of delivery hose, 4 BA sets, 2 hose reels, First-Aid kit & defib, 10m Ladder, 7m ladder, Roof Ladder, Rescue chocks & Blocks, chimney fire-fighting kit, Beaters, Fire Extingushers, Hydraulic ram & cutters(Jaws of Life), Water Rescue Suits for water first responding, Thermal Image Camara), Except the 13.5m ladder instead it houses a dedicated rescue platform for gaining access to HGV cabs and use on uneven ground. The list of Stations who have them is Ashford, Maidstone, Canterbury, Medway, Thames-Side and Dartford. However this may be wrong as Ashford isn't on the list But most deffinatly has one, and runs a RPL as well not a Pump (as it says on the list of appliances).

Added by Chris Stone on 15 August 2013.
Interesting to see the difference in height between the pumps and the TL. The TL looks almost toy like in comparison.

Added by D.cruickshank on 15 August 2013.
To add to the list of Stations with a RPP is Folkstone, who's RPP I've got a rear pic of and didn't realise! As for the TL, (not ALP as I've mistakenly labled it), Kent were one of the few British Brigades that Bought these low height Magirus appliances, they're more common on the continent.

Added by Chris Stone on 17 August 2013.
The Dennis sabre is a pump not a rescue pump its manned by retained fire fighters.

Added by Adam white on 24 August 2013.
Hi Adam the Dennis Sabre has been replaced by a Scania P280/JDC. Which I'm sure was running around with a 13.5m ladder on it.

Added by Chris Stone on 24 August 2013.
Hi Chris yes you are right but its a pump ladder now as the whole time Scania has the platform.

Added by Adam White on 08 September 2013.
Anyone know what will placed at the new Ramsgate fire station when the height vehicle is withdrawn from Thanet stations?

Added by John Smith on 26 September 2013.
I don't think they have found land to replace the station as it's got to be near to the existing station as the part time firefighters have to respond with in 5 mins. But there will be a whole time and part time pump and the height vehicle

Added by Adam white on 27 September 2013.
Thanks Adam, local paper and KFB website show new station site/plans as the old Ramsgate swimming pool, only wholetime pump (upto 8 fire fighters)and on call 2nd pump mentioned, height vehicle subject to the annual November review officials say, Regards.

Added by John Smith on 28 September 2013.
The 2 new air/sea rescue helicopters should be in place at Manston to coincide with Ramsgates new fire station, an ideal solution to any downgrading of height vehicle attendance in Thanet, not that the tls/hps can reach the top of tower blocks anyway.

Added by John Smith on 29 September 2013.
Its CARP appliance for the new Ramsgate fire station when built then, the present Scania will obviously replace the ancient on call man pump.

Added by John Smith on 10 October 2013.
Using a helecopter in a high rise fire will kill people, look into what happened at the fire in Arlington House in Margate when an RAF Sea King turned up!!

Added by on 04 May 2014.
Correct, terrific downdraught from the seakings, the planned new manston ones couldn't be as bad (siting at manston in jeporty now) but what alterntive is there?

Added by John Smith on 09 May 2014.
Kent don't have a carp anymore they sold it because it was rubbish and kept going wrong all the time and there are no plans to buy a new one

Added by Adam white on 09 May 2014.
The on trial new slimline Iveco pump has been at thanet training station this week, it dos, nt look MAN enough for wholetime frontline use I, d say.

Added by John Smith on 11 December 2015.
Whole time are not having them they are going to retained stations to start with

Added by Adam white on 15 December 2015.
John Smith, what is a "slimline Iveco Pump"?

Added by Les Davis on 15 December 2015.
Cheers Adam, glad to hear that, Ramsgate especially need one as 2nd pump, their old MAN tub is well past the sell by date, Eastry also.

Added by John Smith on 16 December 2015.
Yes Les, vehicles being trialled by KFB for retained stations initially I, m reliably informed, they, ve been on the continent for years, guess KFB got a deal for a job lot of new ones, and with Annes 3 man crews it, ll be back to the old Dennis D days.

Added by John Smith on 18 December 2015.
The Iveco slimline is still at Thanet, quess its Ramsgate bound as 2nd pump, not much progress on the new station apparently.

Added by John Smith on 26 December 2015.
No message received 7/1/16, last correspondent please try again.

Added by John Smith on 07 January 2016.
16reg Iveco now on the run at Margate as 2nd pump replacing the ex Horton Kirby Volvo, its if is probably the one that was stored at Thanet, The new Ramsgate station works are underway at the old swimming pool site.

Added by John Smith on 23 June 2016.
TL P865MKJ for sale on EFA Trading Essex County Fire and Rescue site.

Added by Ian Britten on 23 June 2016.
TL is for sale with Essex County Fire & Rescue, EFA Trading.

Added by Ian Britten on 23 June 2016.
Both of the iveco tls are up for sale, they are still at canterbury and ashford stations at the moment awaiting disposal

Added by Adam White on 24 June 2016.
Good info Thank You, if that new Iveco pump stays at Margate it will the first non hand me down pump the on call section have had for 36 years, the last being MKE923W Rs Dennis in 1980.

Added by John Smith on 25 June 2016.
I believe MKE923W is still about somewhere.

Added by Adam White on 29 June 2016.
Even better info, Thanks Adam, any more details of where would greatly appreciated.

Added by John Smith on 30 June 2016.
All of the Retained Rs Dennis would have been low mileage, I don,t know how many would have been sent abroad during operation Florian if any.

Added by on 30 June 2016.
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