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Unknown Dutch Magirus Deutz
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No: 32536   Contributor: Martin A. Routledge   Year: 1992   Manufacturer: Magirus Deutz   Country: United Kingdom
Unknown Dutch Magirus Deutz

I am not going to pretend I know anything about this appliance I photographed at a Teeside rally at Preston Hall in the early 1990s. The orange beacon is an interesting feature that a lot if not all Dutch fire appliances look to have.

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Picture added on 14 July 2012 at 20:17
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Magirus-Deutz 170 series. Nothing DAF about it. Probably isn't Magirus bodywork - looks Rosenbauer or Dutch to me. The amber beacon probably means that it was an airfield appliance.

Added by Roger Greenaway on 14 July 2012.
I don't know where I got DAF from...thanks for the correction
I know amber lights are a feature of airport vehicles and a number of our local ambulances here have them and I assume it is for that purpose but I have seen a few photos of Durch appliances with such beacons that appear to be urban rather than airfield but it could well be an airfield connection...thanks

Note from Editor: I've changed the title

Added by Martin Routledge on 14 July 2012.
The amber beacon is standard on all Dutch appliances. In The Netherlands they use it as a obstruction light. The Dutch government set up rules regarding the use of blue lights. At a emergency scene one unit can use the blue lights, the other (including Police and Ambulance) turn on their amber lights. The Government thinks people are less distracted from amber than blue?

Added by Marcel Sloover on 15 July 2012.
The Magirus Deutz looks like it is a former Rotterdam Fire brigade unit. Bodywork is from Motorkracht-Magirus but I also see a Doeschot-Rosenbauer logo on it. Not quite sure what the license plate is, but it looks like with 71-41-J?. If the last digit is B at the end it's probably a 1975 built Magirus Deutz 170D11. Perhaps my friend Frank can help us out.

Added by Marcel Sloover on 15 July 2012.
Thank you for this Marcel

Added by Martin Routledge on 15 July 2012.
Martin & Marcel,
It is one of the Rotterdam firebrigade Magirus Deutz engines(1976-1986). The Coat of Arms of Rotterdam is positioned on the front door and also the roofconstruction of the sirenes is typical for Rotterdam. 71-41-JB is the correct licence plate. The truck is probably exchanged by Doeschot-Rosenbauer, that will explain the Doeschot logo.

Added by Rob Stammers on 16 July 2012.
This design was first launched in 1965 or 1966. Glasgow was the first UK brigade to buy one in 1967. I think it is amazing how modern these Magirus pumpers still look after all these years. Unfortunately, Magirus was absorbed in to IVECO and lost their identity (along woth their unique air-cooled V6 and V8 diesel engines)- but they still build aerial ladders and platforms, which are used in many far-flung countries.

Added by Rob Johnson on 17 July 2012.
Where was this Engine stationed after his Servicetime in Rotterdam. the number 542 was not tipical for Rotterdam.

Added by Aaldert Koster on 18 July 2012.
My friend Frank told me this:
"This is the Magirus Deutz 170D12F (license plate 71-41-JB) built in 1975. It was in service from 1976 until 1986 with the Rotterdam fire department. It was based at the old Rotterdam Prins Alexanderpolder Fire station with call sign TAS 117. Pump capacity 2850 l/m low pressure, 400 l/m high pressure. Watertank 1350 litres water, 150 litres foam concentrate. Delivered in dayglow red but later transferred to a normal red colour. After tis carreer with the Rotterdam Fire dept. it was sold to Smit Fire, Later it was donated to a English museum in in South Yorkshire. It seems to be in private hands now."

Perhaps the 542 isnt't 542 but S42 from Smit Fire 42?

Added by Marcel Sloover on 18 July 2012.
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