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Can anyone expalin the non-standard radiator grill on this Dennis F12?

Added by Barry on 13 May 2007.

Barry, this is infact a Dennis F7 a pre 1950 one as denoted by the early radiator grille and the fact that it has a 162inch wheelbase as noted by the full width locker just in front of the rear wheel
regards, jason

Added by Jason on 13 May 2007.

What a fantastic appliance! This is certainly one I would love to see 'in the flesh'someday. Further to Jason's comments, research so far suggests around 25 F7s had this style grill before the more familiar F12 style version was introduced. Other differences between '7s' and '12s' are the round door handles and that the hard suction locker doors do not overlap the rear cab doors.

Added by Chris on 18 May 2007.

Okay guys, you're not bad the three of you. Now, I want to know if the beacon is a 'Hella' and any explanation for the height of the base? Also, what can you tell me about the siren? mounted nearside roof because it appears to look like one heck of a screamer?! Thanks - Pavel

Added by Pavel Zaremba on 20 May 2007.

Sorry Pavel, can't help with the blue light, I'm more of a twin amber flashers man myself, but I agree the siren does look impressive.

Added by Chris on 23 May 2007.

Id have a guess that it is Bosch lamp as they were a common fit in those early days Jez

Added by Jez on 21 July 2007.

ive got some fond memories of this appliance as my dad used to drive it and ive got some great pictures of it too. If your stuck with any questions send me an email and i'll try my best to get my dad to answer them. [email protected]

Added by Andy Callister on 15 January 2008.

Personally I think the beacon could well be an Eisemann. They were the most common make when beacons were first introduced to the UK, and came in two reflector sizes, 75mm and 130m, that on LFM 200 being the larger. Plinth mounting also varied quite bit.

Added by Ian Moore on 15 January 2008.

Chris...I have the pleasure of driving this machine...its owned by Cheshire F&RS Heritage Group which I am a member and secretary. If you ever want to have a close look at it please contact me...I will be happy to arrange. Its kept at Middlewich Fire Station at the present time......and Yes the siren sounds fantastic!

Added by Bazza on 19 July 2008.

Pavel..I have today climed onto the roof of this machine (the things I do in the name of fire engines!) and confirm Ians guess that the blue beacon is in fact made by Eismann and it is a 130mm model .....well done Ian...your superior knowledge of the subject wins the day yet again.

Added by Bazza on 20 July 2008.

Well Barrie, I got my wish to see her in the flesh at the Derby Fire and Rescue Show this year and if she had been the only appliance there, the journey from Norfolk would still have been worthwhile! The show has it's own website where it can be seen that LFM 200 had plenty of company for the weekend.

Added by Chris Wood on 22 July 2008.

Thanks for that Chris....I drove her to Derby and she went like a dream (albeit somewhat thirsty)

Added by Bazza on 23 July 2008.

Bazza, thanks for that info, well done mate! Also Ian thanks for your contribution, good plinth mounting says a lot for the tradesman.

Added by Pavel on 26 July 2008.

Anyone can help me?
I plan to make the models of DennisF8,F7,F12.
Can Not find the necessary sizes.
What length and height of these machines (advisable height - on top of the booth)
F12 higher, than F8?
The Width F7 such as F12?
Can be anyone has a drawings of these machines? Can You share it?
Thanks!

Added by SNAKER on 11 June 2009.

If anyone have ANY information about SIZEs of Dennis (F7,F8,F12,F17) report me, PLEASE!

Added by SNAKER on 16 June 2009.

Snaker....we have both an F7 and a F8 on our Heritage Fleet, I will be happy to take some measurements when I have time.

Added by Barrie Green on 16 June 2009.

Thank you, Barry!
I hope on your help!

Added by SNAKER on 16 June 2009.

Hi guys.
I'm pretty sure that the siren is manufactured by Francis Searchlights Ltd; of Lancashire I believe.
Chester City machines were never fitted with Two Tones.Well to be absolutely correct, following a fault on the siren fitted to Dennis F108 Pump Ladder UFM 379K this machine was fitted with Two Tones for the last month of its City Fire Service ownership (March/April 1974).
The retiring Chief the late Harry Sheldon QFSM detested Two Tones.

Added by Tony Jones on 21 December 2012.

Yes Tony...you are correct, its a Francis Siren made in Bolton. dosnt half 'growl' especially when driving through the Manchester Airport tunnel lol

Added by Barrie Green on 22 December 2012.

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