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Id love to see a locker inventory and the full spec for this.

I doubt very much that its carrying EXACTLY the same gear/media etc.

Added by Davey G on 23 July 2011.

Davey the Devon & Somerset FRS are buying/going to evaluate four light pumping appliances on different light commercial chassis. The first one in the brigade is an Iveco Daily 4x2 with JDC coachwork. There is a press release about the project on the D & S FRS web-site. The fire tender depicted is one of four Iveco Daily/JDC line rescue units which are shorter in length.

Added by Gary Parkinson on 23 July 2011.

Gary, are these to replace fullsize WrT/L's?

Added by Gary Simpson on 23 July 2011.

Whatever the inevitable arguments for and against, this particular vehicle looks a tidy little piece of kit and worth trialling surely ? A realistic time period with genuine operational experience, plus reliability and other relevant factors must be the basis for determining whether it (and the other variants) are fit for purpose and the trial can confidently move from concept to reality. If not, Service Management must have the guts to say "No" rather than continue to persevere with something that doesn't live up to expectation and provide a demonstrably improved service.

Added by KDR on 24 July 2011.

The above pictured appliance is a special rescue/line rescue unit it is not one of the new light rescue pumps. I believe there are three of the above type of special rescue unit one of which was being utilised at the Glastonbury Festival and I believe will be stationed at Bridgwater. From a conversation I had today, the Iveco chassis was not larger/man enough to meet the weight requirements for the lightweight pumps so these will be on a Mitsubishi chassis. They will have the conventional style of three lockers along the sides and one at the back and are only one metre shorter than a conventional pump. The driver/cre familiarisation is due to start around September time.

Added by PAUL PICKFORD on 24 July 2011.

I'd be curious to know how much leg room does the back have for the 3 firefighters? Looks awfully tight.

Added by David L on 25 July 2011.

As I have WA60 FGC/FGD/FGE/FGF/FGG listed, can anyone come up with the 6th one please, which appears to be an "in isolation" registration rather than a consecutive one please ? Also, is it known which three are the SRTs please, and are the other threee L4Ps ?

Added by Ian Moore on 25 July 2011.

That makes a bit more sense Paul. Thanks for the clarification.

I do thing "Fire & Rescue" on the side would ahve been better annotation than "Rescue Service" too.

Added by Davey G on 25 July 2011.

Will the new Mitsubishi units be 4x2 or 4x4 as the SRT's , I know this region experiences a lot of wildfires and the 4x4 aspect would come in handy for the off road work , its just that I was not aware that the mid size Mitsubishi could be had in 4x4 mode , I think the chassis in question is the 'Cantor'

Added by Gary Bolton on 25 July 2011.

Cantors are widely used in Australia, and do well off road in high ground clearance specs, despite being 4x2. A 4x4 would have to be a conversion. Hino does build a factory 4x4 in the 7000KG to 9000KG GVW range, which is probably what these will be. The low GVW will work if the spec reduces the water tank to 800 to 1.000 liters, offset by a CAFS installation, which doubles the extinguishing capability of plain water in high pressure fog reels. Some European - and almost all Japanese - brigades are forced to use very small trucks, and they can run a 1500/2000 LPM pump, carry five crew, 1, 000 liters water, a decent hose load, BA, tools, ladders, rescue gear etc, if they are very intelligently laid out and loaded, with up to 80% of the locker space of "full-size" units. The Japanes crew cabs are tight, with very limited headroom, but crew comfort may not be the brigade's top priority, and most runs are relatively short.

Added by Rob Johnson on 25 July 2011.

Rob Midi trucks have been tried before with varying degrees of success in the UK , I understand that Cumbria have a number of Mercedes 8 series vehicles on station with more being rolled out , your right stowage is crucial when space and weight considerations are paramount.I think we will see more of this type of vehicle in the future as it seems that as the chassis's improve Brigades feel a bit more confident about their abilities in certain circumstances

Added by Gary Bolton on 26 July 2011.

I suppose in concept they are a cheap, modern layout Dennis F8 ie are small machine with limited water and locker space, but not so "pretty".!!

Added by Neal Glover on 30 July 2011.

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