Lambert: By north American standards, this M series Mack is actually rather compact. FDNY's old Mack M series rescues were much longer, with tandem rear axles. Their newest rescues are even longer, and the record probably goes to the city of Orange (US) which operates a truck-trailer rescue with a second driver (tillerman) on the rear of the trailer.
These old Macks are very robust, and Toronto still has quite a few in front line service.
Rob thats true Old timers are always lamenting the demise of Mack commenting on how durable and robust they were !
Added by Gary bolton on 14 December 2012.
It was the French management, who ran Mack after it was acquired by Renault, who decided to back out of the fire engine business. Mack used to be the standard in many large cities, including both New York and Chicago - and dozens of them are still in front line service with volunteer departments all over the country.
Ironically, Renault is now losing out to other more reliable brands all over France and Belgium, even in Paris, which has switched to Mercedes for their pumpers and ladder trucks!
Added by Lambert Arnaud on 29 July 2010.