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No: 22971 Contributor: George Frankenfield Year: 2010 Manufacturer: Mack Country: United States of America
Great Mack...the Crew Compartment is less spacious, than it looks; as there is the great lump of the mid-engine in the middle, about level with the lozenge (parallelogram) shaped windows.
Does seem that the "3-men-across" doored crew space was added to the conventional cab-shelter, where 1 man would have sat in a 'granny-seat' (rear-facing jump-seat), on either side, beside the lozenge window.
Our friends in New Zealand, have had somewhat similar rigs; would anyone be able to give more information on this interesting truck ?
eg Was it a 'hand-me-down' from a big city FD, say "Philly"; or was this VFD prosperous enough to order it 'brand-new' ?
Any road; this is a classic example of a well-tended Volunteer Fire Dept. Pumper.
Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B
Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 22 April 2010.
Does seem that the "3-men-across" doored crew space was added to the conventional cab-shelter, where 1 man would have sat in a 'granny-seat' (rear-facing jump-seat), on either side, beside the lozenge window.
Our friends in New Zealand, have had somewhat similar rigs; would anyone be able to give more information on this interesting truck ?
eg Was it a 'hand-me-down' from a big city FD, say "Philly"; or was this VFD prosperous enough to order it 'brand-new' ?
Any road; this is a classic example of a well-tended Volunteer Fire Dept. Pumper.
Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B
Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 22 April 2010.
The Mack is from 1991, newer than I thought it was.
I grew up in Philadelphia, not too far from Barren Hill. Many of the local VFDs had (still have) Macks of various vintages and models, and many purchased them new. I think one reason for Mack's popularity in Pennsylvania (and New Jersey and Delaware) is that Mack is headquartered in Allentown, PA, about 60 miles north of Philly.
Oddly, Philly itself has had relatively few Macks. In my childhood in the 50s, the pumpers were mostly on Autocar and Ford commercial chassis, and the ladders were American La France. Then Philly turned mostly to tilt-cab Internationals for pumpers.
FDNY has had hundreds of Macks of various models and vintages over the decades; when Mack essentially got out of the business FDNY turned to Seagrave. Many ex-FDNY Macks are still in service with VFDs. The Barren Hill Mack could be one of them -- FDNY's last order of Mack CFs was in 1991. Hard to tell -- their website doesn't say.
As can be seen from their website, Barren Hill's trucks all have Roto-Rays (3-light pinwheels) on the front. All the Philly trucks had them when I was a kid, but then they went out of fashion in favor of rotating-beacon "bubble-gum machines". Now Roto-Rays are back in vogue in this part of the country -- anything to get the attention of oblivious people who drive with closed windows and loud music.
Added by Michael Feldman on 22 April 2010.
I grew up in Philadelphia, not too far from Barren Hill. Many of the local VFDs had (still have) Macks of various vintages and models, and many purchased them new. I think one reason for Mack's popularity in Pennsylvania (and New Jersey and Delaware) is that Mack is headquartered in Allentown, PA, about 60 miles north of Philly.
Oddly, Philly itself has had relatively few Macks. In my childhood in the 50s, the pumpers were mostly on Autocar and Ford commercial chassis, and the ladders were American La France. Then Philly turned mostly to tilt-cab Internationals for pumpers.
FDNY has had hundreds of Macks of various models and vintages over the decades; when Mack essentially got out of the business FDNY turned to Seagrave. Many ex-FDNY Macks are still in service with VFDs. The Barren Hill Mack could be one of them -- FDNY's last order of Mack CFs was in 1991. Hard to tell -- their website doesn't say.
As can be seen from their website, Barren Hill's trucks all have Roto-Rays (3-light pinwheels) on the front. All the Philly trucks had them when I was a kid, but then they went out of fashion in favor of rotating-beacon "bubble-gum machines". Now Roto-Rays are back in vogue in this part of the country -- anything to get the attention of oblivious people who drive with closed windows and loud music.
Added by Michael Feldman on 22 April 2010.
This is a 1991 MACK CF-600 / E-ONE engine.
It has a 750 GPM pump with 750 gallon booster tank.
It was purchased new by Barren Hill.
Their first MACK CF-600 Was Purchased new in 1971?
I can not remember the date.My father was Chief Engineer at the time. I was thrilled when the fire cheif let go to the MACK plant with my dad to have it serviced.That was something i will never forget as a 11 year old.
Added by George Frankenfield. on 10 July 2010.
It has a 750 GPM pump with 750 gallon booster tank.
It was purchased new by Barren Hill.
Their first MACK CF-600 Was Purchased new in 1971?
I can not remember the date.My father was Chief Engineer at the time. I was thrilled when the fire cheif let go to the MACK plant with my dad to have it serviced.That was something i will never forget as a 11 year old.
Added by George Frankenfield. on 10 July 2010.
Mack
Added by Mike Feldman on 21 April 2010.