Fire Engines Photos

This is a 1989 Mack/Ward 79 1000gpm Pumper and was one of 23 purchased during that year.The apparatus,numbered MP8903(MP-Mack Pump/89-Year/03-No3 of 23)was originally delivered as a pumper to Engine Co 323 at 6409 Avenue'N'in the Borough of Brocklyn before becoming one of the 7 Rescue Squads that operate within the FDNY.
The Mack/Ward 1000gpm pumper was first introduced in 1984,the same year I beleave the white over red livery was introduced,and actually between 1984 and 1990,some one hundred and twenty three Mack/Ward pumping appliances were purchased.
Its easy finding original Engine Company/Ladder Company locations,but its very difficult though to find movements after that.Some go as spares, some to re-assignments,some disposed of,and some go to specific assignments,ie-foam unit,etc.
From a fleet of around 290 pumpers on the FDNY roster,of these 210 are assigned to engine companies,22 are loaded reserve pumpers,9 are at the various training schools at the Fire Academy and there is more spares,so its very difficult to keep trace on of every unit,its movement,and its final destination.

Added by Pete Matten on 05 September 2009.

This 1989 Mack/Ward 79 pumper converted to a Squad Company was replaced in the year 2000 with a new Seagrave 1000gpm/500-gallon tank Rescue-Pumper.Squad Companies 252 and 270 also recieving them.

Added by Pete Matten on 08 September 2009.

Hi Pete how many gallons of water do FDNY Engines carry ? Paul.

Added by Paul Warnock on 05 October 2009.

The average pumping apparatus(engine)within the FDNY has 500 gallons of water with a 1000 gpm pump. There are exceptions though,in 1993,7 Seagrave pumpers had 750-gallon tanks,and then again in 2003, 6 Seagrave pumpers had 750-gallon tanks, but on average 500 gallons is the normal quantity of water carried. In 1987,and also again in 1988, several Mack/Ward 1000/1000-gallon tank pumpers were purchased. Six from the 1987 batch, and 4 from the 1988 batch were later converted by FDNY Workshops to Foam Apparatus.
One thing to note, the amounts mentioned are American and not British gallons, there's a difference. We say a 400 gallon (1810 litre) water tank, the Americans do not work like we used to in imperial gallons. 500 US gallons basically works out at 3.7854 litres per gall-thats 18927 litres.
Paul, if my sums are wrong, I'm sure one of our brothers over the other side of the big pond will help us out, Pete.

Added by Pete Matten on 05 October 2009.

Pete - your "Three R's" from school - er - "Reading, 'riting and 'rithmetic" - is pretty good.

Only a Decimal Point missing; so 500 US gallons is 1892.7 litres....I'd put it down to that little tiny Dot being so hard to see on the key-board.

So, approximately, your Fire Apparatus Water-Tank of 400 Imperial Gallons; is 480 US Gallons; is 1,818 Litres.

In Canada; we were Imperial Measure, then became officially Metric; and also deal in USA Measure, due to our proximity and trade. So, we have to deal in all 3 systems....

Our young fire-fighter, at the Fire-Hall, bragging about their brand-new car's Fuel Economy would be getting 20 miles per gallon Imperial; 16.65 miles per gallon US; and 14.12 kilometres per 100 litres .... of gasoline/petrol.

Rule of Thumb... a US Gallon is considered about 4/5 of Imperial Gallon..... actually its 83%....

Eeeek.

Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B



Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 06 October 2009.

To sum it all up, whats one little DOT between friends,I wasn't to far off getting it right then. I'll keep looking for that DOT,but I'm sure it probably only equates to one little drip anyway and I was never to good at sums,Pete.

Added by Pete Matten on 06 October 2009.

Pete and Pat. Many thanks for the information, after 4 visits to New York since 2001 and the millions of questions I have asked the firefighters I have not asked about the water bit. Paul

Added by Paul Warnock on 06 October 2009.

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