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The Polish manufacturer in question is ISS Wawrzaszek from Bielsko-Biała.

www.wawrzaszek.com.pl

Wawrzaszek is a major company, it builds a wide range of vehicles, trailers, pods, etc. for the fire service. It specialises in GRP composite components, tanks and complete bodywork. It is also the mother company of Ruberg, a Swedish pump manufacturer. It supplies components as well as complete vehicles to customers not only in Central and Eastern Europe, but also to Scandinavia (Sweden, Norway, Iceland), France and Belgium. The Scania above is a typical example of an ISS Wawrzaszek product bound for the Swedish market.

Added by Konrad Nowak on 12 July 2009.

North Yokshire Fire and Rescue service in England are trialing a Renault Mascott fire engine with bodywork by ISS from Poland and a Ruburg pump at the moment for 6 months.

Added by Paul Warnock on 12 July 2009.

What's the feed back on the appliance Paul and where is she based mate ? cheers John .

Added by John Johnstone on 12 July 2009.

That's interesting, as it is one of the most popular light rescues/pumps in Poland. Is the pump a single stage pump (in Poland it is usually a HP only pump, 250 lmp @ 40 bar)? What is its role (or what would it potentially be if North Yorks would decide to purchase some?).

Added by Konrad Nowak on 12 July 2009.

Hi Konrad. North Yorkshire are looking to replace a 4x4 Mercedes which is at a remote station up on the Moors, with very retrictive access to some of the villages and properties. I dont think this appliance is going to be suitable for the station in question. The brigade has the vehicle for 6 months so are going to try it out anyway to see if would suit another station. It would most probably used a second pump on a 2 pump station. It is fitted with a single stage high pressure Reberg pump, the problem is it can not pump from open water.Thanks Konrad for you information.
John, the UK Agent for this appliance is Emergency one in Scotland, it has gone back to them for some equipment to be fitted and then after some training it will go on the run at Malton as the retained pump until December.Have a look at the following web site which has a similar vehicle. www.wawrzaszek.com.pl

Added by Paul Warnock on 13 July 2009.

Cheers Paul, can you let me know when she goes on the wrong, i'd love to see it on the run, i just can't see it being very good sadly, just not upto the job size wise and can't pump from open water ? hmmmmmm no comment.

Added by John Johnstone on 14 July 2009.

Paul thanks for the information, am I alone in thinking its daft to trial summat that cant suck out of a beck or tarn? If it cant act as a first stage pump on a water relay in a rural area whats the point?

Added by John Stott on 14 July 2009.

John. I will let you know when it goes on the run at Malton.
John S.The Watch Manager from the station in question was a bit suprised when they said it couldn't pump from open water. I think its a way the brigade are looking into getting Targeted responce vehicles.(TRV) without them saying so. I will keep my eye on this one as it develops

Added by Paul Warnock on 14 July 2009.

Thanks Paul, just imagine a stack fire and this is first attendance! It beggars belief what they are trying to pull nowadays.

Added by John Stott on 15 July 2009.

With any luck the crews at Malton will blow it up or right it off before it costs a life ....

Added by John Johnstone on 16 July 2009.

Thanks for the info, Paul. In this case, it is not a wise choice... I would personally recommend a Vario 4x4 TSF-W ;)

www.ff-moenchwinkel.de/technik_seite/pic_tsf_w_komplett.JPG

Added by Konrad Nowak on 16 July 2009.

I can imagine John, and their nearest second pump is 20 miutes away on a good day, did you have a look at the ISS website ?

Added by Paul Warnock on 16 July 2009.

Konrad, thank you for the information i will have a look.

Added by Paul Warnock on 16 July 2009.

How can you replace a 7.5 ton 4x4 with a van that can't collect water from an open source ? bad enough in a town, but in a rural area ?

Added by John Johnstone on 17 July 2009.

John, I asked a lawyer mate of mine about if a brigade stuck something like this on the run where before they had an "all rounder", ie a proper pump. He reckons a brigade is laying itself wide open to litigation if there is loss of life or injury by such an action! More to the point though, why?

Added by John Stott on 18 July 2009.

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