Ian, In their time I beleive these Bedford/HCB machines were one the best available, especially for County Brigades. The power to weight ratio gave it good performance especially where distance had to be covered, the stowage was well laid out with easy access with the weight kept down low giving good roadholding capability. Are there many of this type in preservation, if you have any photos of same could we see them. As you can sense memories are being stirred, I used to drive a few, great! Thanks. Alan Jones
What I would like to see is a manufacturer provide Glazing units and Ladders to upgrade the old Dinky Toys. The old Dinky Commer is actually quite a nice model, as is their old AEC.The ERF was the best though.
Ah c'mon, you "Vintage Firemen" - tell us more about this great rig.
So far, 1950's vintage, great rural engine, non-syncromesh gear-box, bi-fold doors to crew compartment, Rear-Mount Pump; Dinky Toys did not have a model.....
What about engine, water-tank, pump, crew, Escape-Model ?, Fire Brigades supplied..... Does the OIC's door open - can't see a door-handle.... Any more pics, if any are still around.
And, of course, "On-the-Run" stories (<;]
Thanks, Ian - for an interesting machine - new to many of us.
Bristol Fire Brigade had 1, RHT 553, in use for some 20 years, 400 gallons of water, 35 foot ladder, a picture of the working end of this vehicle appeared in one of the Fireman manuals many years ago.
Yes, John - some Neurons managed to bang together here - so speaking of Ancient Memory - there's a couple of other similar-vintage Bedfords on this 'Site.
Picture # 5591 is a neat 1954 Bedford TA Turn-table Ladder (Aerial) of Boskoop, The Netherlands.
Pictures #4907 and #4908 of open-cab Bedford RL of Quuensland, Australia. Got a REALLY open-cab.... not even a half-door to slam. Would keep "Elf & Safety" hopping !
The Bedford in the background of picture 15440 is almost certainly GFL990D a 1966 vehicle which I believe was new to Cambridgeshire and Isle of Ely Fire Brigade. This machine is often mistaken for a Green Goddess which of course it isn't. I do have a picture of this Bedford awaiting it's turn to be digitalised so it will appear in due course. In my picture GFL990D is in service with Duxford Fire Service, which I photographed around 1988. On the subject of Duxford Am I right in thinking there used to be a large Fire Engine Rally there in the 80's? If so what happened to it?
Yes, it is GFL 990D - I'll see if I can find a shot of it. It was actually new to Huntingdon & Peterborough, which passed into Cambridgeshire in 1974.
Added by Ian Moore on 08 March 2009.
This HCB Bedford was actually configured almost the same as the contemporary Green Goddess EP, except that the styling was much curvier. The big locker immediately behind the cab was for a transversely-installed portable pump, and the 400 gallon tank was immediately behind it.
The main specification difference was that the EP had a main pump rated at 1, 000 gpm, while most of these had a lesser capacity one, such as a Dennis No2 500 gpm for example.
This machine can be seen in action at a 1961 Saltburn fire along with I assume Redcars venerable 1937 Leyland Cub and Saltburns Bedford TJ. Google search-'Saltburn Centenary yfa film' and fire is at 15mins in. Also illustrates why Saltburn had Clevelands last Escape and a recent CARP.
Added by CraigW on 01 January 2020.
Craig:
That Redcar Leyland was the very first fire engine I ever set eyes on in 1951. A very nice fireman let me sit in the driver's seat and then ring the bell - starting my love affair with fire engines which has now lasted 70 years!
Has anyone got a picture of the ex 'Green Goddess' that was on Teesside Fire Brigades fleet? SYH325 if Oxford Diecast have it right ! Was it ever at Redcar ?
In their time I beleive these Bedford/HCB machines were one the best available, especially for County Brigades.
The power to weight ratio gave it good performance especially where distance had to be covered, the stowage was well laid out with easy access with the weight kept down low giving good roadholding capability.
Are there many of this type in preservation, if you have any photos of same could we see them.
As you can sense memories are being stirred, I used to drive a few, great!
Thanks. Alan Jones
Added by Alan Jones on 28 February 2009.