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Somerset Fire brigade ERF Simon Snorkel
Further to picture 14672 this picture shows the other ERF Pump/HP that was operated by Somerset Fire Brigade. It was stationed at Yeovil and had bodywork by HCB Angus.
Further to picture 14672 this picture shows the other ERF Pump/HP that was operated by Somerset Fire Brigade. It was stationed at Yeovil and had bodywork by HCB Angus.
Paul, thanks for sharing another photograph of one of these appliances
with us, especially me because I'm trying to research a little on them
at the moment for maybe a future article/publication.....Pete.
Added by Pete Matten on 13 February 2009.
with us, especially me because I'm trying to research a little on them
at the moment for maybe a future article/publication.....Pete.
Added by Pete Matten on 13 February 2009.
The replacement for this (G484LYC) is still going at Yeovil. I belive at various times this E.R.F shared space at Yeovil with TK "Angus" YYC316H, a TK Saxon and one of the F reg Dodge Saxons.
Added by George A'court on 12 May 2009.
Added by George A'court on 12 May 2009.
Pete:
How is your project going?
I think you will find that the PHP phenomenon was a precursor to the recent CARP debacle back in the day when these were the latest fad..
I haven't found a single UK brigade which ever replaced one by another after it had finished its front line service life. Some were placed on the reserve roster after only a few years and others were seemingly very quickly sold off - often to Irish brigades who were looking for a bargain.
Even Glasgow, which seemed very enthusiastic about them, does not appear to have replaced any of theirs with another "schoosher"!
It all echos the ill fated efforts of some American manufacturers to sell 55 foot quints and squirts, both of which have almost completely disappeared from view nowadays. It would seem that a combination pump and aerial is only really useful if the aerial is at least around 75 feet or so, otherwise the field of operation is too limited for it to be effective much of the time.
I should like to know what you found out, particularly if you think I have got hold of the wrong end of the "stick", as we call aerials here!
Added by Rob Johnson on 25 April 2018.
How is your project going?
I think you will find that the PHP phenomenon was a precursor to the recent CARP debacle back in the day when these were the latest fad..
I haven't found a single UK brigade which ever replaced one by another after it had finished its front line service life. Some were placed on the reserve roster after only a few years and others were seemingly very quickly sold off - often to Irish brigades who were looking for a bargain.
Even Glasgow, which seemed very enthusiastic about them, does not appear to have replaced any of theirs with another "schoosher"!
It all echos the ill fated efforts of some American manufacturers to sell 55 foot quints and squirts, both of which have almost completely disappeared from view nowadays. It would seem that a combination pump and aerial is only really useful if the aerial is at least around 75 feet or so, otherwise the field of operation is too limited for it to be effective much of the time.
I should like to know what you found out, particularly if you think I have got hold of the wrong end of the "stick", as we call aerials here!
Added by Rob Johnson on 25 April 2018.
Nothing has come up in the last few years to change what I previously learned about the ill fated PHP phenomenon. Too big, too heavy, rather slow, not enough locker space, no room for a decent extension ladder and - above all - the booms were too short for useful deployment except in very limited circumstances. Both a 15 metre escape and a 13.5 metre light alloy ladder were "old fashioned" but a lot more versatile!
Added by Rob Johnson on 11 February 2025.
Added by Rob Johnson on 11 February 2025.
ERF
Added by Paul Warnock on 13 February 2009.