Fire Engines Photos

Hello Marcel, This is not a Mk11 but a Mk12, which was Ex Royal Navy as the RAF only had one Mk12a


Added by Wayne Davies on 03 November 2008.

Thanks Wayne, I'm not that familiar with the different Marks :-)

Added by Marcel on 03 November 2008.

Gee; someone has to ask The Obvious Question.... what distinguishes the Mark 11 from the Mark 12 and the Mark 12a ? Any specs as to engine, water tank, foam tank etc....

Is that An Ancient Stone-works, wedged in with the utilitarian airport buildings in the left back-ground - water-supply maybe ??

Great shot of an impressive Crash-Truck.

Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B

Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 03 November 2008.

Pat, it started in the fifties / sixties. Every RAF machine was known as a "mark 5 etc" right up to a few years ago when they reached 12. Rumour has it that 13 was where it stopped because its unlucky. So we had, 5, 5a, 6, 6a, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12. Thats not counting ACRT, TACR 1, TACR 2/2a and now RIV and MFV. We also had Bedford domestics of varying types!

Added by John Stott on 04 November 2008.

Thanks, John - now, I can make a guess at "RIV" being "Rapid Intervention Vehicle". (We got them over here)

There is a Carmichael "MFV" photo elsewhere on this 'Site, and it is not at an Airport; so it might mean "Multi-Purpose Fire Vehicle" ?!

I don't 'spose "Motor Fishing Vessel" from my old world in Coast Guard would count...... ;>)

"ACRT" and "TACR" must be variations on "Airport Crash Rescue".

Ah, the Military Mind; even for 'umble Fire-Trucks..... but, no "Mark XIII" !

Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B

Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 04 November 2008.

And don't forget the ubiquitous 'DPs' John

Added by Barrie Green on 04 November 2008.

Thanks Barrie! Pat, DPs were dual purpose ie water and foam capable. ACRT was Airfield Crash Rescue Truck and TACR, Truck Airfield Crash Rescue. MFV is Major Foam Vehicle.
The RCAF used the Mk 6 but I think it was called the G19 in Canadian service.

Added by John Stott on 06 November 2008.

Ah, thank you John & Barrie.

Any idea, of which Marks would have been around in 1968 ?

That year, I used to see 2 identical Crash Tenders drilling at HMCS Shearwater, the Royal Canadian Navy Air Station at Halifax, Nova Scotia. Never got up close, [ taking flying training, so hoping wouldn't need their attention for real ! ] but now I wonder who built them.....

And, this 'Site has other British makes, sold to Canada.

Regards, from Canada,
Pat_R-B



Added by Pat Rivers-Bowerman on 06 November 2008.

Pat, they might have been G19s, the first batches went to Canada but I dont know how many. There were subtle differences as I dont think the Canadians stipulated a CBM system, also I think the G19 could produce on the move, the RAF machines didnt.
As for 1968, 5s, 5a, 6 and 7 and ACRTs. Usual line was at a medium sized section was ACRT, 2 x Mk6 or 7 and 2 x DP2. Smaller sections as on fighter bases would have a smaller line.

Added by John Stott on 07 November 2008.

correct me if am wrong but is that a panther crash tender in the background


Added by Rich(larbert fire cadets) on 05 January 2009.

Yes it is, look at picture 12138

Added by Marcel on 05 January 2009.

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