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Hempfield, Pennsylvania
Fire Engine Photos
No: 10757   Contributor: C Lucas   Year: 1994   Manufacturer: E-One   Country: United States of America
Hempfield, Pennsylvania

Something different, a blue fire engine of the Hempfield Fire Dept in Lancaster County, PA. They also have a Tanker this colour.
Picture added on 07 September 2008
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Pennsylvania and New Jersey volunteer companies are known for unusual color schemes.

Added by Mike Feldman on 13 December 2010.
1990 E-One Protector 1250 GPM Pumper

Added by Walter Brown on 30 January 2013.
Very sharp looking rig seems modern looking for a 1990's unit , good idea the front mounted hydrant conection complete with LDH length.

Added by Gary bolton on 31 January 2013.
This is the famous "Cincinnati cab"' which was used by numerous fire engine builders here. This four-door version was indeed relatively uncommon in 1990, with a lot of departments still buying the older and more traditional two-door canopy cab.

It was still considered macho to ride on the tailgate in those days, so the extra seating in the enclosed cab configuration was not something many fire chiefs valued very highly. In addition, the canopy cab made access to the engine easier, as it was positioned behind the front axle, between the rear-facing jump seats.

Added by Rob Johnson on 31 January 2013.
Mr. Brown is correct, this is an E1 Protector 1250/750, this is an all-E1 product, this is not a "Cincinnati cab" made by Truck Cab Manufacturers of Cincinnati, OH.
Protector cabs were offered by E1 between 1990-1996.
While Mr. Johnson believes that macho attitudes were still leading to tailboard riding in 1990, this practice ended here in Maryland by law in 1988, after a female volunteer was killed in 1987(thrown from rear of rig while responding).Many cities, including WashDC, Baltimore, Philly, and many vfds had 4-doors in service...

Added by Warren W. Jenkins on 31 January 2013.
This rig formerly was with the Salunga VFD, about 15 years ago it merged with another dept. to form Hempfield Twp.

Added by Warren W. Jenkins on 01 February 2013.
1990 was indeed a transition period: Maryland was very sensible in banning tailgate riding as early as 1988 - and once the trend to four-door cabs had started, there was no going back, especially when many fire engine chassis builders moved the engine forward to sit between the front seats.

Sorry if I misidentified the cab - many manufacturers used either the TCM cab or a very close copy of it!

But many volunteer departments were still ordering canopy cabs in 1990. The big cities had full-time firefighters who were often unionized, and this often produced pressure to enclose the cabs and discontinue step riding. Volunteer departments had no such pressure, until the NFPA eventually insisted on 100% fully-enclosed cabs.

I find it amazing that it took so long, especially considering the extremes of weather in many areas of the US. By the late 1920s, Paris had enclosed pumpers, and by WWII they were the norm all across Europe. During the years up to the mid 1980s, there were very few fire departments in the US who had a policy of running only fully-enclosed trucks.

Detroit was one of the first in the 1930s with Seagrave van-type pumpers, but then reverted to canopy cabs in the 1960s!

Added by Rob Johnson on 01 February 2013.
Here in Maryland, some vfds used open-cab rigs exclusively regardless of their geographic location, i.e., my hometown (Frostburg) took delivery of one of the very last Seagrave open-cab pumpers in 1973, 15 years later, a new Seagrave 4-door pumper was delivered and the 1973 pumper sent out for refurbishing and a enclosed cab.
Other vfds in Maryland had various forms of 3 & 4-door rigs on commercial chassis, several depts. had Detroit-style enclosed van types by Seagrave and ALF, also built in the 1930s.
In examining histories of companies who bought enclosed rigs prior to the 1960-70s, travel distance to calls seemed to be a factor, especially in winter.Funding also was a factor, as the better-funded vfds were more likely to order such a rig.

Added by Warren W. Jenkins on 01 February 2013.
"The violent civil disturbances of the 1960's in America's large urban areas that resulted in deaths and injuries to firefighters and many fire rigs damaged were the single major factor leading to the design of true crew-cab apparatus."
J.A. Calderone, FDNY chief and editor, "Fire Apparatus Journal"

Added by Warren W. Jenkins on 02 February 2013.
Most U.S.A. apparatus historians agree;
1. The first enclosed van-type pumper was a 1935 Mack and went to Charlotte, NC.
2. Detroit did indeed have a huge fleet of Seagrave "sedan" van pumpers bought from 1936-1965, but their demise was more from the city's budget, plus Seagrave wanting to phase out their engine-ahead Anniversary model, which it did in 1970.
Until modern times, government spending on fire protection has been minimal to non-existent in many rural and unincorporated towns. Even in USA large cities, there have been cases of aged and unsafe apparatus due to financial neglect.Even today, vfds in my area still raise money for new rigs by having roast beef dinners, summertime carnivals (with parades!), and Bingo nights.

Added by Warren W. Jenkins on 02 February 2013.
Its not just VFD's that suffer either. My home town in california recently had to close one of its stations for 2 years and their ladder went down as well, so they were using an old and decrepit medium duty rescue truck as their truck company. the closest stick was 20 miles away. Fortunately the federal government provided some funding and the station has been reopened and were able to purchase a new ladder truck which is being delivered this month.

Added by Walter Brown on 02 February 2013.
It is very true that there are some huge disparities between departments here in the US when it comes to apparatus, but the same holds true in many other countries in Europe, Africa and central and south America.

There is no shortage of 30 and even 40 year old trucks operating with volunteer fire companies in many such places. Even the Italian Vigili del Fueco, which is a National Fire Service, farms out its older trucks to the rural and small-town stations, and some of them look none too well-maintained!

The UK seems to be much more co-ordinated, when it comes down to apparatus specifications, vehicle ages and maintainence standards, even if there are several different regional fire services. Germany, which is also organized regionally, has an enormous population of older trucks still in use by its numerous volunteer fire companies - a total contrast to the full-time stations, which usually have very modern equipment.

When I lived on Long Island, it was the other way around. Many of the volunteer departments in affluent Nassau county had large fleets of very expensive and rarely-used new custom trucks, which put the FDNY units from Brooklyn and Queens to shame!

When my local VFD finally got a working structure fire call (my house!) they eventually responded with five engines, two ladders, two heavy rescues and five chiefs cars - all for a basement fire which was quickly extinguished by a single 1.75 inch attack line!

Added by Rob Johnson on 03 February 2013.
is that auto snow chains hanging under the rear axle? we used them in tayside for many years on volvo and early scanias but now dont for some unknown reason as guess what - yes it snows a fair bit in tayside , great idea , very reliable idea and an utter god send in bad weather -even mud

Added by Alan Ramsay on 04 February 2013.
They are relatively common on trucks used by fire departments in northern States here, especially in rural areas and smaller cities which may not be able to plow out the streets too quickly.

Added by Rob Johnson on 06 February 2013.
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